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	<title>Comments on: Toronto DemoCamp20 &#8211; Presentations, Humour, and Porn</title>
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		<title>By: Sunir Shah</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunir Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike, you may or may not recognize me as the guy with the laptop during the FreshBooks presentation. Your comments are fair, and you&#039;re not being a dick! We like to try pitches out on TorCamp first before we take them on the road, so they usually are less polished than others who demo the same schtick all the time. I have been using the TED Commandments as a guide.

In five minutes, we wanted to show how we changed the app, explain why we did it, and what the results were to basically pitch the value of turning small business SaaS apps into networks. There really aren&#039;t any other apps in the small biz sector doing the same thing yet (as far as I know), or at least to this extent, and so we think it&#039;s an idea worth spreading.

We never talk about our numbers at FreshBooks, and for us, showing our actual activity and growth in that video was a big deal. I don&#039;t think we communicated the shear awesomeness of that growth curve compared to our sector&#039;s general baseline. That&#039;s something I have to think hard about improving next time we do this pitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike, you may or may not recognize me as the guy with the laptop during the FreshBooks presentation. Your comments are fair, and you&#8217;re not being a dick! We like to try pitches out on TorCamp first before we take them on the road, so they usually are less polished than others who demo the same schtick all the time. I have been using the TED Commandments as a guide.</p>
<p>In five minutes, we wanted to show how we changed the app, explain why we did it, and what the results were to basically pitch the value of turning small business SaaS apps into networks. There really aren&#8217;t any other apps in the small biz sector doing the same thing yet (as far as I know), or at least to this extent, and so we think it&#8217;s an idea worth spreading.</p>
<p>We never talk about our numbers at FreshBooks, and for us, showing our actual activity and growth in that video was a big deal. I don&#8217;t think we communicated the shear awesomeness of that growth curve compared to our sector&#8217;s general baseline. That&#8217;s something I have to think hard about improving next time we do this pitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 17:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adil:  Thanks so much for the offer!  I&#039;m actually involved in the formation of a new independent theatre group in Toronto, so you might be hearing from me soon!

Thanks for your work Adil!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adil:  Thanks so much for the offer!  I&#8217;m actually involved in the formation of a new independent theatre group in Toronto, so you might be hearing from me soon!</p>
<p>Thanks for your work Adil!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 17:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David:  My pleasure - thanks for helping put on a great event!

Concerning trying things out at DemoCamp - absolutely, and I hope my comments haven&#039;t made anyone feel unwelcome to future DemoCamps.  I&#039;m not a professional critic by any stretch of the imagination: I&#039;m just some guy who happened to be there that night.

Getting on stage is pretty scary.  For everyone.  Professional actors included, no matter what anyone tells you.  It&#039;s even more scary for the people who don&#039;t do it for a living, so maybe what my post was missing was a big sincere nod of appreciation to all presenters for having the balls to get up there, regardless of how their presentation went.

So, to all of you presenters: thank you for your work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David:  My pleasure &#8211; thanks for helping put on a great event!</p>
<p>Concerning trying things out at DemoCamp &#8211; absolutely, and I hope my comments haven&#8217;t made anyone feel unwelcome to future DemoCamps.  I&#8217;m not a professional critic by any stretch of the imagination: I&#8217;m just some guy who happened to be there that night.</p>
<p>Getting on stage is pretty scary.  For everyone.  Professional actors included, no matter what anyone tells you.  It&#8217;s even more scary for the people who don&#8217;t do it for a living, so maybe what my post was missing was a big sincere nod of appreciation to all presenters for having the balls to get up there, regardless of how their presentation went.</p>
<p>So, to all of you presenters: thank you for your work!</p>
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		<title>By: Adil Dhalla</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Adil Dhalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike - no need to apologize, you&#039;re doing every one else a big service by providing your honest, non-sugar coated opinion and making people like myself better. @David is right and this is what we should love about the Demo Camp philosophy: there are very few places people can share and experiment with a friendly and constructive audience and not feel like they &#039;failed&#039; for making mistakes. 

Sure you might feel down about not doing your best (which I did) but its natural and ideally encouraging to continually improve. That&#039;s what we need more of in Toronto and to a greater extent, Canada. 

So thanks again for the notes and to repay you the favor, if you&#039;d like to try us at no charge, get in touch with me and we&#039;ll go from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike &#8211; no need to apologize, you&#8217;re doing every one else a big service by providing your honest, non-sugar coated opinion and making people like myself better. @David is right and this is what we should love about the Demo Camp philosophy: there are very few places people can share and experiment with a friendly and constructive audience and not feel like they &#8216;failed&#8217; for making mistakes. </p>
<p>Sure you might feel down about not doing your best (which I did) but its natural and ideally encouraging to continually improve. That&#8217;s what we need more of in Toronto and to a greater extent, Canada. </p>
<p>So thanks again for the notes and to repay you the favor, if you&#8217;d like to try us at no charge, get in touch with me and we&#8217;ll go from there.</p>
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		<title>By: WineAlign + DemoCamp20 &#171; WineAlign</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>WineAlign + DemoCamp20 &#171; WineAlign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tech event without blog posts recapping every single detail.  TechVibes and Toronto web developer Mike Conley have done a great job of covering off some of the awesome companies that took [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Crow</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Fantastic writeup! And I hope @Adil is ok at taking criticism. I railed on him pretty hard over the weekend. He&#039;s a good sport, and the rules are designed to be a framework/structure for good presentations. Not all demos/presentations fit really well. 

I think the biggest thing that everyone should take away (both Anand and Mike McDerment alluded to this) people should not be afraid to try things out at DemoCamp. Mike has presented 4 times, his first presentation was a home run, second one of the worst strikeouts on record, three and four gigantic imnprovements to rockstar status. Kudos to Adil and everyone for getting up on stage and sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Fantastic writeup! And I hope @Adil is ok at taking criticism. I railed on him pretty hard over the weekend. He&#8217;s a good sport, and the rules are designed to be a framework/structure for good presentations. Not all demos/presentations fit really well. </p>
<p>I think the biggest thing that everyone should take away (both Anand and Mike McDerment alluded to this) people should not be afraid to try things out at DemoCamp. Mike has presented 4 times, his first presentation was a home run, second one of the worst strikeouts on record, three and four gigantic imnprovements to rockstar status. Kudos to Adil and everyone for getting up on stage and sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adil:  Thanks for posting!  Sorry if my review was a bit grumpy - it was late, and I was tired.  Still, I&#039;m interested in what your service has to offer, and I&#039;ll certainly keep it in mind for when I throw an event.

Cheers,

-Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adil:  Thanks for posting!  Sorry if my review was a bit grumpy &#8211; it was late, and I was tired.  Still, I&#8217;m interested in what your service has to offer, and I&#8217;ll certainly keep it in mind for when I throw an event.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Adil Dhalla</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Adil Dhalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike - these notes are awesome! Its great that someone (you) took the time to do this. 

In regards to what you wrote about my presentation, I agree - it was not a demo, it was a talk. If you felt like you had to &#039;crawl&#039; through it, then it was indeed weak! The reason why I didn&#039;t demo was because of my mistaken interpretation that I was limited to &#039;2 slides&#039; and not &#039;2 slides + demo&#039;. My fault entirely. As I said, it was my first time at DC or showcasing TT to a crowd like that, so it was a great learning lesson for me. I think we&#039;ll be at DC Guelph in July where I&#039;ll improve upon last night&#039;s presentation now that I have a clearer understanding what to do and feedback from people like yourself to consider. I appreciate the help, even though it wasn&#039;t necessarily intended to be that for me ;) 

Cheers and great job to the rest of those who Demo-ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike &#8211; these notes are awesome! Its great that someone (you) took the time to do this. </p>
<p>In regards to what you wrote about my presentation, I agree &#8211; it was not a demo, it was a talk. If you felt like you had to &#8216;crawl&#8217; through it, then it was indeed weak! The reason why I didn&#8217;t demo was because of my mistaken interpretation that I was limited to &#8217;2 slides&#8217; and not &#8217;2 slides + demo&#8217;. My fault entirely. As I said, it was my first time at DC or showcasing TT to a crowd like that, so it was a great learning lesson for me. I think we&#8217;ll be at DC Guelph in July where I&#8217;ll improve upon last night&#8217;s presentation now that I have a clearer understanding what to do and feedback from people like yourself to consider. I appreciate the help, even though it wasn&#8217;t necessarily intended to be that for me <img src='http://mikeconley.ca/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Cheers and great job to the rest of those who Demo-ed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mediabeat letter 001 &#8212; Mediabeat.ca</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Mediabeat letter 001 &#8212; Mediabeat.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ghostwriting presumably not work of belaguered &#8220;maid for a month&#8221; Jan Wong.  TORONTO DEMOCAMP 20 RECAP seems to yet again reinforce the detachment pro geeks have from popular culture — let&#8217;s see [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2009/05/26/toronto-democamp20-presentations-humour-and-porn/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jay:  My pleasure!  And thanks to you for helping put on a great event, and keeping the night relaxed and fun.  Thumbs up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jay:  My pleasure!  And thanks to you for helping put on a great event, and keeping the night relaxed and fun.  Thumbs up.</p>
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